[HiDARG-MEMBERS] 220 MHz Antenna build.

Jeff Moore tnetcenter at gmail.com
Sat Jan 30 00:24:47 EST 2021 

I have a Propane/oxygen torch that would do that, but You'll have to
provide the solder - I don't use solder normally when I use the torch, I
use special copper high-temperature brazing material that is not suitable
for conducting electricity.  The "solders" I use are not suitable for
electronics per se and require MUCH higher temperatures.  Get some "silver
solder" from a local hardware store; that should work for antenna
building.   And I'll bring my torch set up also - it should make short work
of your antenna.   😋

7   3
Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY




On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 8:09 PM Mike Williams <kb7klt at gmail.com> wrote:

> What i need is soldering of the 1/2" copper pipe fittings...need a torch?
> with map gas?
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021, 7:23 PM Jeff Moore <tnetcenter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Not a problem - I can help you with that!  Make sure you bring the
>> directions - the placement of the connection in a J-Pole is critical!  I'll
>> bring a soldering gun and iron with me.
>>
>> 7     3
>> Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 4:59 PM Mike Williams <kb7klt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have two j-poles cut and ready to solder..but, I don't have the
>>> soldering skills...can somebody elmer me on that part?
>>> Mike kb7klt
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 5:18 PM John Britt Baldwin <
>>> johnbritt.baldwin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> First off, I apologize for the confusion about the date.  In the end it
>>>> was agreed upon to continue to hold it on Feb 7th with a start time of 11am
>>>> at Tony's QTH (K7PTC).  For address info, look him up on QRZ.com.
>>>> Realistically, we'll probably be finishing up by the time the Super Bowl
>>>> starts.  If we are still building when the game starts Tony will have a TV
>>>> out in the shop so no one has to miss it.  Chuck, I know you wanted Mon,
>>>> but I hope earlier on Sun will work for you.
>>>>
>>>> Covid CYA statement:
>>>> We are still in Covid times, and will therefore have to be careful and
>>>> follow state guidelines.  Please be aware that if you come to the antenna
>>>> build, you are responsible for your own PPE and personal space/hygiene.
>>>> Bring hand sanitizer and any other personal protective equipment you think
>>>> you will need to comply with state guidelines.  SOP stuff folks.  Obviously
>>>> if you aren't feeling good or feel you are a high risk individual, please
>>>> do yourself a favour and stay home.  If you don't want to attend for
>>>> whatever reason, but would like a ground plane antenna, please let us know
>>>> and hopefully we can get one built for you and deliver it at a later date.
>>>>
>>>> Materials:
>>>> Just between myself, Bill, and Jeff we have SO239 connectors and plenty
>>>> of the welding wire and mast mounting material we'll need to build over 20
>>>> antennas, so If you don't have any materials it's not a problem.  It would
>>>> be nice for those that need materials to chip in on what they use, but it
>>>> won't be more than 3 or 4 bucks.  We will be able to easily build 2m,
>>>> 1.25m, and 70cm ground plane antennas.  I'm sure some other folks have
>>>> connectors and wire they are bringing too, so there will be plenty of
>>>> materials for those that don't have them.  There was some talk of J-Pole
>>>> and roll up slim jim antennas .  I personally don't have any ladder lines
>>>> for slim jims, or copper piping.  Maybe someone can bring some extra ladder
>>>> line they can part with. If you want a copper J-pole bring the necessary
>>>> length of pipe, and we can help you get it cut and put together.  Also
>>>> bring any other project you want to discuss or help with building.  There
>>>> will be some experienced and knowledgeable Hams there and It'll be a great
>>>> time to pick an Elmers brain in person!!!
>>>> For wire, I'm using this:
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0076HG4I2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>>> or this:
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LXXR8QM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>>> For SO 239's I'm using this:
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WP45RM1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>>>
>>>> YEP!  That's all you need to build a ground plane antenna!  Well, of
>>>> course aside from little waterproofing and mast mounting, etc......  LOL
>>>>
>>>> Tools:
>>>> There will be plenty of hand tools on site, but by all means bring your
>>>> own tools, analysers, books, and knowledge.  For instance, you may want to
>>>> bring some of the following:
>>>> Hack Saw, drill and bits, vice, solder iron and solder, hole cutter,
>>>> file-round and flat, metal brush, tape measure, square, pop rivet tool and
>>>> rivets, marking pen, pliers, wrenches, screw driver, wire cutters, knife,
>>>> pipe cutter, crimp tool for coax, shrink wrap, extension cord, etc,
>>>> etc........  You see where this is going!!  Bring what tools you have, and
>>>> we can fill in the tools you don't.
>>>>
>>>> Food/Drink/tables/chairs:
>>>> Tony is being kind enough to grab some bottled water and a couple
>>>> snacks and I'm sure he wouldn't mind if some more snacks showed up.  I'm
>>>> bringing a table and some chairs so we should have plenty of space to
>>>> build, but hey, bring yourself a chair!
>>>>
>>>> I think that's about the gist of it without completely belabouring it.
>>>> It'll be fun to hang out, meet some new Hams, and get some antennas built!
>>>> I will see ya'll on the 7th @ 11am over at Tony's.  Let the questions
>>>> begin!!  HI HI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73!
>>>>
>>>> KJ7OIV, John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 11:06 AM Chuck Allen <cca at allenz.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Monday
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 26, 2021, at 10:33, John Britt Baldwin <
>>>>> johnbritt.baldwin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not a die hard NFL fan either, but I usually watch the Superbowl.
>>>>> I could do either day.
>>>>>
>>>>> So let's put it to a vote.......  Do the antenna build on Sun the
>>>>> 7th?  Or Mon the 8th?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 9:25 PM Randy Tomer <w6ra.randy at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Count me in!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:08 AM doublenickel455 <
>>>>>> doublenickel455 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My interest of radio and antennae far outstrips any desire to watch
>>>>>>> football...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dani
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>>>> From: Tony Partain <tpartain at centurylink.net>
>>>>>>> Date: 1/25/21 8:33 AM (GMT-08:00)
>>>>>>> To: 'HiDARG Members' <hidarg-members at hidarg.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [HiDARG-MEMBERS] 220 MHz Antenna build.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure Monday the 7th will be fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tony Partain
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 541-749-0835
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> K7PTC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Partain58 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tpartain at centurylink.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* HiDARG-Members [mailto:hidarg-members-bounces at hidarg.org] *On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of *John Britt Baldwin
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 24, 2021 6:41 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* HiDARG Members
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [HiDARG-MEMBERS] 220 MHz Antenna build.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Woops......The 7th is Superbowl Sunday.  Tony, would Mon the 8th
>>>>>>> work for you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> KJ7OIV, John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 5:07 PM John Britt Baldwin <
>>>>>>> johnbritt.baldwin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok!  It looks like we have a lot of interest in the 220 Ground Plain
>>>>>>> antenna build!  It also looks like there are some folks building other
>>>>>>> types as well.  I would suggest that we get ready to build all
>>>>>>> types.......  Because why not!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would suggest we call the date for the build Feb 7th with a start
>>>>>>> time of 12pm.  That way people who work all week can join.  Tony has
>>>>>>> offered up his huge HEATED garage so that's where it'll happen.  We will
>>>>>>> have to be careful during these Covid times, so keep that in mind during
>>>>>>> the build. (had to be said).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill is going to put together a few designs and list the materials
>>>>>>> as "kits" so when you figure out which type of antenna will work best for
>>>>>>> your QTH, you can procure the materials on the list for that antenna.
>>>>>>> There will of course be some extra materials, etc, but for the most part we
>>>>>>> will need to bring our own.  Designs on antennas to follow over the
>>>>>>> following days.  If you have a good design for a 220 antenna email me a pic
>>>>>>> of it, the characteristics that make it a desirable antenna, and a complete
>>>>>>> list of materials to build it, and I'll put in on the list.  In an effort
>>>>>>> to not clutter up the Hidarg mailing list email me @
>>>>>>> johnbritt.baldwin at gmail.com with antenna designs, and when I get 3
>>>>>>> or 4 of them, I'll send one more email to the group with antenna types and
>>>>>>> materials to build it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So far we have:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> N7RGB, Bill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> KE7ACY, Jeff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> KJ7OIV, John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> KJ7SGJ, Dani
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> K7PTC, Tony
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> KB7KLT, Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> N7GND, Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chuck Allen, (didn't see your call sign)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> W7YPZ, Brady
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> K7VMZ, Randy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like I said, I will send out one more email later this week with
>>>>>>> designs and materials list so folks have to time to get materials lined
>>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward to all the new QSO's on 220 coming soon!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> KJ7OIV, John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> johnbritt.baldwin at gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 3:26 PM Daniel Winsor <
>>>>>>> doublenickel455 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I got the TYT 9000D  ... its FM. I know Doc KT7DOC uses this
>>>>>>> radio.   I am unsure if other modes are used locally on 1.25m bands...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dani
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 2:35 PM Mike Williams <kb7klt at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm in too...I also will have to get a new radio..probably FM only?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 10:32 AM Ray KG7AV <kg7av at bunkai.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a tribander so I’m going to take some spare 450 window line
>>>>>>> and put together a slim Jim cut for 223.5 midband.  Good project for a
>>>>>>> snowy weekend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is the online calc I use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://m0ukd.com/calculators/slim-jim-and-j-pole-calculator/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ray KG7AV
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2021, at 08:49, Daniel Winsor <doublenickel455 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My 220 rig arrived yesterday.  Excited to build an antenna!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dani
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 5:37 PM Tony Partain <
>>>>>>> tpartain at centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m in too. I guess I’ll need to buy another radio now but hey
>>>>>>> what’s one more radio.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a heated shop if needed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tony Partain
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 541-749-0835
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> K7PTC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Partain58 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tpartain at centurylink.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* HiDARG-Members [mailto:hidarg-members-bounces at hidarg.org] *On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of *John Britt Baldwin
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2021 3:26 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* HiDARG Members.
>>>>>>> *Subject:* [HiDARG-MEMBERS] 220 MHz Antenna build.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As we talked about on the What's for Lunch Net today (12pm Fridays),
>>>>>>> I'm trying to get a list together of folks interested in building a 220
>>>>>>> ground plane antenna.  As many of you know, there are a handful of us that
>>>>>>> always monitor 223.5.  There are some pretty good random ragchews as well.
>>>>>>> Also, there has been some interest in starting a once a month 220 net so
>>>>>>> now's the time to get that antenna built!!  I also know that a lot of
>>>>>>> people have a tri-band HT and one of these inexpensive and highly
>>>>>>> functional ground-planes with a little stretch of coax and some elevation
>>>>>>> can turn that HT into a 220 base station....(I know because Bill helped me
>>>>>>> build one a few months ago, and that's what I did)   Not to speak for Bill,
>>>>>>> but I'm pretty sure he still has one or two 220 loaner rigs available for
>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill N7RGB has offered up garage space, knowledge and knowhow.  Once
>>>>>>> we get a list of folks, we'll get a list of materials and schedule the
>>>>>>> build.  Hopefully we can do the build in the next week or two, so let us
>>>>>>> know soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So far we have:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> KJ7OIV John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> KJ7SGJ Danny
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> KJ7OIV, John
>>>>>>>
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